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  2. Hi! Are you interested in meeting us all? Well good, so am I. The question are, where and when and who and what? Where: In the US because most of us are from there. Shady had a good suggestion that if someone has a place big enough, that would be good. Another possible idea is to rent a place for the weekend. When: For me, the earliest is on August. If we can't agree on details before August, next would be around new year. If not then, maybe in the summer 2019. A weekend was what i had in mind. What do you guys think? What: Well, energy work, talking, hugging, laughing, sharing. Who: People who have shown interest atm Tuesday, Karen and Tom, Trish, Jonny, FL, shady, dwai So. Let's discuss.
  3. Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. To understand the prayer, I think it is important to understand first the context of "heaven". As Jesus further describes below in Luke, heaven is not some far off land... Luke 17: 20-21 20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’[d] For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” Heaven is found within (or thru you), so Our Father is always "with us". A "name" is a knowing, and such a knowing is very hallowed. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. This line is reminder that the kingdom of heaven is not some far away land, but here in the present moment. Or, as other traditions describe nirvana and samsara are ultimately the same. And if we are one with God's will, we realize that and the kingdom "comes"... For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭17‬ KJV) Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, A few words of consideration on what we need for our "daily bread" or sustenance... Matthew 4:1-4 1Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. And... John 5:53-58 53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. 54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. 57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. 58This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Here are a couple of verses which I think might help with putting the line in context... Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (‭James‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬ KJV) As the above says, God does not tempt anyone to wrongdoing. But, if one thinks of the translation of temptation more like "trials"... There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. (‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭10‬:‭13‬ KJV) It takes on a different feel and meaning. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen
  4. New Chat Link

    Hi Lari, Click on the Living unbound Chat tab above and it should link you to the slack account. If that does not work, feel free to send me a pm with your email information and I will have an invite sent. Regards, Jeff
  5. New Chat Link

    hello. im a new member. how do i get into the chat?
  6. Hey there, hi there, ho there!

    Welcome Jainarayan to LU
  7. Hey there, hi there, ho there!

    Thanks! Glad to be here.
  8. Hey there, hi there, ho there!

    Welcome Jainarayan!!!
  9. Hey there, hi there, ho there!

    Thanks Jeff!
  10. I'm flattered to have been invited here. Some of you know me, some probably don't so here goes something about me... As of this writing I'm 60 years old, with the mentality of a 20something. I'm Italian-American, having been raised Roman Catholic. I left Catholicism at about age 23 for the Eastern Orthodox Church, which in my opinion has a more mystical quality than the RCC. The mystical aspect is right up my alley. From my early teen years I had a fascination with, and was drawn to India and Hinduism. Even as a Christian I believed the Hindu gods (and gods of other pantheons) to be real beings and manifestations of one God. I drifted away even from the EOC and coasted as a [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydeism]'polydeist'[/url], then drifting towards polytheism and finally embracing Hinduism. I did dabble a bit in Heathenry, i.e. Norse Paganism, for a bit. I see a close connection between Taoism, Tibetan Buddhism and Hinduism. So there it is. P.S. the name Jainarayan is just a pseudonym I took. It's Hindi and means "hail/victory to God" (Narayans is Vishnu).
  11. Avatamsaka Sutra

    From the Avatamsaka Sutra... Great bodhisattvas have no attachment to Buddha and do not develop attachments; they have no attachment to the teachings and do not develop attachments; they have no attachment to lands and do not develop attachments; they have no attachments to sentient beings and do not develop attachments. They do not see that there are sentient beings, yet they carry on educational activity, civilizing and teaching ways of liberation; they do not give up the practices of bodhisattvas with great compassion and great commitment. Seeing buddhas and hearing their teachings, they act accordingly; trusting the buddhas they plant roots of goodness, ceaselessly honoring and serving them. They are able to shake infinite worlds in the ten directions by spiritual powers; their minds are broad, being equal to the cosmos. They know various explanations of truth, they know how many sentient beings there are, they know the differences among sentient beings, they know the birth of suffering, they know the extinction of suffering; while knowing all acts are like reflected images, they carry out the deeds of bodhisattvas. They sever the root of all subjection to birth. They carry out practices of bodhisattvas for the sole purpose of saving sentient beings and yet do not practice anything. Conforming to the essential nature of all buddhas, they develop a mind like an immense mountain. They know all falsehood and delusion, and enter the door of omniscience. Their knowledge and wisdom are broad and vast and unshakable, due to the attainment of true enlightenment. This is the insight of practical knowledge of equally saving all sentient beings in the ocean of birth and death.
  12. I think you may find Chapter 27 of the Tao Te Ching useful to your point... A good walker leaves no tracks; A good speaker makes no slips; A good reckoner needs no tally. A good door needs no lock, Yet no one can open it. Good binding requires no knots, Yet no one can loosen it. Therefore the wise take care of everyone And abandon no one. They take care of all things And abandon nothing. This is called “following the light.” What is a good person? The teacher of a bad person. What is a bad person? A good person’s charge. If the teacher is not respected, And the student not cared for, Confusion will arise, however clever one is. This is the crux of mystery. The wise take care of everyone and abandon no one. This is called “following the light”... and is the crux of (the) mystery.
  13. This is my last message on this thread. New era has begun. The evolution moves towards creation of super human beings on this earth. Many new children who will with age will be clearly vilsible. By 2084 , this new generation of superhuman beings will take over the rule of this earth. They will have longer age above 100 years or so. They will be healthy, happy and materially rich generation. They will follows principals of Lotus sutra and not the buddhism. They will be givers and not takers (Sambhogkaya). They will be creative (Nirmankaya). They will be conscious of nature and will improve earth climate (Dharamkaya). Christians population will out number others in this category of super human beings.
  14. I also confirm that I have achieved the great milestone of grouping with Christ organisation and we are working complementing each other.
  15. Valenone is ok and he has a lot of limitations. Let me now move beyond him.
  16. He has stopped communicating after the last message of his which I have brought it out in open. He has acted/ led me to believe that he is no more. If he has acted , it is his foolishness and may lead me to some serious wrong decisions, and can harm me and others. If has led me than there is no question of privacy. The whole list of private messages should be brought out and its effects discussed. The reason is that his karma will now lead him to me and he will be mine, till he is cleaned of the all the mess that led him to this state.
  17. Riju, I do not think you should post private messages like that in a general forum. Such comments are personal between the two you, and without context can be very misleading. You are always welcome to send me a pm too. To the broader point, I did discuss (and explain) with Valenone some of these issues a couple of weeks ago when he came into the chatroom. As I mentioned earlier there had been some buildup, and we worked on it. By the end of the discussion, he seemed much better, but I have not talked to him recently. As to your bus analogy, I think it fits well with what has been happening with the two of you. And I can definitely see how it would be helpful to you. What Valenone is experiencing in Buddhist terminology is the bhumi “hard to teach”. Best, Jeff
  18. Jeff I am waiting for your comments anxiously. He never criticized Lotus sutra or the ;bus incident. You may have alternate source of information on Valenone. When he was in trouble , he critilcized my methods and me.
  19. yes, he wanted to know lotus sutra and he knew about the bus. In between I had warned him to stop helping me as he was feeling uncomfortable. When he told me that I can get seriously hurt because of my method, I assured him that I am well protected by Lotus sutra and I have been in this process for many years. Yet he wanted to continue helping me.
  20. valenone Replied: February 5 I am not happy. I am going trough psycological hell. I feel contant terror and everyone is planning to kill me. No bullshit. You might be insane understand. I have been planning suicide for 7 days each day begging for mercy from people so they dont kill me. Did you do this to me? Are you happy riju? Dont play with stuff you dont know. You are ******* retard i understand so much more than you now and its pure hell. I might soon slith my wrists off so people wont kill me.
  21. When was your last message from him? Valenone has very strong flows in general and can often feel them as overwhelming. Sometimes get caught up in them and needs to release (or reside). You could say he feels a very strong desire to help others around him and can get caught up in those connections. By wrong path, was he talking about the lotus sutra, or you with him on the bus? Is he familiar with your bus analogy (as he has not described things like that to me in the past).
  22. No news from Valenone. In his last private message he said that he is in serious trouble with the spirits and he is since last one week thinking of committing suicide. Hence I have been worried for him and have been waiting for his communication'. He has also warned me many times saying that I am on a very very dangerous and wrong path. My spiritual progress has been very good since then. I hence assume that I am with in the bus and there is help coming from Christ organisation. What does Jeff think about this event?
  23. Valenone collapsed due to overconfidence. I knew that Valenone cannot alone handle my energies, but I was led to believe that Christ is at his back and protecting Valenone.. So all good is happening. For one month Valenone has been handling my energies and I was enjoying the rest and peace. It was a vacation for me after hard work of 24 ;years. In between due to partly developed Jhannas of Valenone ,he was not able to clear many energies and they were getting accumulated in his body. The end result was a serious collapse. I am waiting to hear some news from him , before I comment further.
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